Problems money can't solve?

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Problems money can't solve?

Post by Olaz » Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:03 am

What are all of the problems that money *can't* solve?

I'll start:

1. No matter how much money one has, it won't heal a broken heart </3
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Re: Problems money can't solve?

Post by daylen » Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:04 am

More like what problems can be solved with money?

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Post by Ego » Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:30 am

There are many health issues and fragilities that are not reversible regardless of the amount of money thrown at them. Same goes for some mental-health issues. Same goes for some relationship issues. Sadly it is not unusual for people to incrementally cause themselves irreversible mental, physical and relationship damage through neglect while working to build a nest egg that they incorrectly believe will buy them solutions to the increasingly dire problems.

Regarding the broken heart, someone smart once said, "The world breaks everyone, and afterward, some are strong at the broken places."

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Post by Felipe » Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:49 am

No matter where you go, there you are. Money buys security, freedom, and some power- that's it.

It can buy great mentors to help with relationships, health, etc. but it can't do the work for you of changing beliefs and all that.

One great tool but just that.

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Re: Problems money can't solve?

Post by BRUTE » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:08 am

this might be the wrong way to look at this. while money won't heal a broken heart, neither will anything else but time.

money won't heal cancer, but neither will anything else.

money won't heal the damage from decades of working in a coal mine, but neither will anything else.

what money enables humans to do is take action on those day-to-day things so damage doesn't accumulate until catastrophic system failure.

money enables paying extra every day for healthy food, so they don't get diabetes.
money enables paying a little more in rent, so the commute is shorter and daily stress and time-in-smog is reduced.
money enables retiring early.

@Ego
that's a cool quote. brute is stealing that one.

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Post by Solvent » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:55 pm

Money won't stop the baby from crying.

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Re: Problems money can't solve?

Post by chenda » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:09 pm

Death. The great certainty. :|

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Post by [email protected] » Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:24 am

Money can't "solve" most problems, but it can help ease the pain.

Also

It's not "Money" that solves anything, it is how it is used. That is the hard part, knowing how to use this tool. Not only functionally, but psychologically. It's a very loaded psychological tool. Use it wisely if you can. Much experience may be needed to know how to do this and few know how to really use money wisely. Most know just how to acquire and stock-pile it or spend it frivously.

A weakness of ERE is the default of just not spending money if one has a big pile of it. Sometimes it might actually be good to put some of it to use but it can be hard to know when, how and why.

Money can also not solve entropy.

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Post by Sclass » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:10 pm

I just got done dealing with my mother's problems today. Whoa. Money won't solve dementia.

But it goes a long way towards hiring helpers. They are making a big problem manageable for me.

Anyone who is an employee solves somebody's problems for money. Everyday. Ok, most of us aren't curing cancer (some of you are I think) but we are solving some owner's problems for money. Maybe not our own problems though. And then it is easy to slip into the trap of "money cannot solve my problems".

Maybe we are all to rich here? It is a big deal when you don't have it. I get it, everyone here has enough money so all the easy stuff is solved. We are just left with toughies like cancer, dementia and death.

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Post by Crazylemon » Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:09 pm

Ego wrote:Sadly it is not unusual for people to incrementally cause themselves irreversible mental, physical and relationship damage through neglect while working to build a nest egg that they incorrectly believe will buy them solutions to the increasingly dire problems.
Although many more do all those things without amassing the pile of gold.

@brute depends on the Cancer. Many can be fought ever more effectively and be won against.

Death as of yet Money can't beat and many conditions are better avoided than spent money on. But money sure as hell helps with health in both permitting measures to be put in place to prevent deterioration and it sure as hell makes conditions like dementia much more bearable.



Family issues it largely just makes worse. Unless everyone has the big pile of gold/no one know about the piles of gold

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Re: Problems money can't solve?

Post by vezkor » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:40 pm

Money is a proxy for human-designated valuable products and services.

Re-ask the question as: What are all of the problems that products and services *can't* solve?

You could get technical and require that human's must assign value (price or cost) to the product and/or service but you wouldn't want to risk missing the point.

Think about it backwards again: what are all of the problems that products and services CAN solve?

I think this will help guide you to the heart of ERE. Becoming self-sufficient and building a foundation of "life-needs" from the ground up... when you break life down into its' building blocks (I need shelter, fresh water, food etc.) and find ways to provide those things without the middle-man universal tool of Currency, you start getting robust. By far money will be the most efficient answer to many questions, but every time you find a different answer and gain a skill: you get more resilient.

Also makes you really think hard about what is actually a "problem".

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Re: Problems money can't solve?

Post by 7Wannabe5 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:57 pm

The lack of a sense of purpose. I think this is even more key than various aspects of health, because what's the point of, for instance, diverting your time/energy away from accumulating financial assets and towards increased maintenance of the your greatest asset (you-body,brain,spirit etc.) if you have no use for yourself? Kind of like you are your own car which you own outright and you keep parked in a garage to just go out and wax every night. Or a dog chasing its own tail. Or any other metaphor for a very small, closed loop system.

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