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Suggestions for [action]-pictures for newspaper article

Post by jacob » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:46 pm

I need to take some pictures of my "lifestyle" for a newspaper article.

Because I've almost forgotten what "normal" looks and thinks like, I'd like some suggestions of what normal(*) people would find interesting in terms of differences to the standard consumer lifestyle.

(*) Insofar they're reading the "lifestyle and culture" section of the paper, that is :geek:

What I find challenging is that I get the impression that people expect big differences in the macro sense, e.g. a complete outfitted workshop, whereas in reality the devil is mostly in the details. For example, not counting books and DVDs there are less than 10 items in our living room that we paid for and less than 5 that we paid retail for. But that's hard to show on a picture.

Ideas so far:
Contents of fridge and pantry
Pouring mead into a bucket
The downsizing system with stuff to go
Doing the dishes w/o a dishwashing machine
Mowing lawn with a push mower
Rooting the bathtub

Looking for suggestions.

PS: In case you're 5 years behind the curve, note that we live in a house now, not an RV or an apartment.

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Re: Suggestions for [action]-pictures for newspaper article

Post by FBeyer » Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:07 pm

Stupid question: Why do you need/want images that portray your lifestyle as different?

Riding a bicycle should do the trick, unless it's for the Danish newspaper again, in which case... well, you know.

The trick, I guess, is that you want to show (in images) what you DON'T own/do/pay for. That's a VERY interesting problem to have. That particular message only really goes over well if you live a very minimalist lifestyle like F. Jay for instance. The entire contents of her bedroom look like:
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Neither my brother-in-law nor his GF own a car, so their carport (no garage) holds two cruiser bicycles rather than two cars. The imagery is actually quite telling: The people who live here don't make room for a car where one "SHOULD" be.

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Re: Suggestions for [action]-pictures for newspaper article

Post by jennypenny » Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:26 pm

Where's that pic of you and the rake? ;)


I'd rather see pics of how normal your life is. If I were you, I'd want to show the quality of the stuff you do own to make the point that it's about being selective and resourceful, not cheap. Maybe also a contrasting picture of something of quality with something that was free to show how well it can blend together? Or show the harmony that can be achieved combining DIY with good craftsmanship or prized tools, like hand-washing a nice pot or dish, or a decent laptop on a homemade desk, or nice garden shots that mention that you save or swap the seeds, etc.

Personally, I'd also like to see the results of combined efforts with others whether through swaps or group projects. I think the social aspect is important yet lacking for many of us. (maybe that's not true of Europeans?) A pic of you enjoying something you received from someone else might get that point across.

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Re: Suggestions for [action]-pictures for newspaper article

Post by jacob » Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:50 pm

It's for a Danish newspaper again (I'm getting my 15 minutes of fame, all at once :o ).

Good suggestions so far. Keep'em coming. It's already much better than my list so far.

Here's a picture of a dork and a rake. It somehow works :-P

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Re: Suggestions for [action]-pictures for newspaper article

Post by Lucky C » Sat Jun 11, 2016 2:24 pm

How do you want the readers to perceive you or ERE in general?

If you want to look smart and serious, show yourself reading one of your favorite esoteric books - and be sure to furrow your brow so that the readers see you are really thinking deeply about the subject. If you want a do-whatever-you-want fun vibe, try lounging around in casual clothes or pajamas with a glass of mead in the middle of the day. Or how about you watching the rush hour traffic report on TV, pointing and laughing. :)

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Re: Suggestions for [action]-pictures for newspaper article

Post by BRUTE » Sat Jun 11, 2016 2:58 pm

maybe a picture of jacob's normal room, but overlaid is information about why it's not normal? like "dinner table - dumpster dived behind IKEA", and "electronic coffee grinder - old lady died and left this to jacob".

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Re: Suggestions for [action]-pictures for newspaper article

Post by Eureka » Sat Jun 11, 2016 3:59 pm

Maybe it is better to figure out what you'd like to show of your life and give them moments or things that are important to you - rather than trying to accommodate what you think 'normal' people would find interesting. By doing the latter you run the risk of turning yourself into a freak show.

So pictures of the favourite corners of your house and garden and you doing everyday stuff you enjoy like sitting at the computer, using walking as a means of transportation, cooking ... or whatever makes you happy doing.

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Re: Suggestions for [action]-pictures for newspaper article

Post by Ego » Sat Jun 11, 2016 4:22 pm

Cooking lentils.
Biking with a backpack or panniers.
Hanging laundry.
Weeding your lentil patch.
Polishing one of your unusual BIFL items.
Planing or hand drilling a piece of reclaimed wood.
Arms spread Christlike in your empty garage (nobody has an empty garage in America!)
Riding public transportation

Try to express the idea that you are interested in both the fine details and the big picture. Focus up close on some specific task like patching a bike inner tube or weeding your lentil patch and then, very important!, show the fruits of that focus, ie, feet up in the garden reading a dense library book with a glass of homemade lemonade.

Lots of color!
Big smiles!
Expansive postures!

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Re: Suggestions for [action]-pictures for newspaper article

Post by George the original one » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:45 pm

Cooking, definitely Jacob cooking something. It humanizes you and is a familiar theme for readers.

And everything else Ego wrote, LOL!

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Post by General Snoopy » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:20 pm

Why not a picture of your library card and your public transit card. Plus you and your bicycle. Maybe you and one of your renovation projects (you bought a fixer-upper I believe). Perhaps, you living a normal life?

Plus, and most importantly, a picture of you and your wife to show that you are not some crazy loner with some crazy ideas.

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Post by sky » Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:36 pm

Show them that you are fabulously wealthy by throwing handfuls of lentils in the air.

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Re: Suggestions for [action]-pictures for newspaper article

Post by Ego » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:40 am

You've gotta do a cold shower photo.

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Re: Suggestions for [action]-pictures for newspaper article

Post by jennypenny » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:03 am

shower pics ... expansive postures ... what kind of publication is this??

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Post by inchicago » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:35 am

jennypenny wrote:shower pics ... expansive postures ... what kind of publication is this??
It's Danish! :lol:

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Post by Ego » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:38 am

I just assumed Jacob was shooting for the centerfold. He could post a few head shots and we'll photoshop the rest.

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Post by ffj » Sun Jun 12, 2016 10:15 am

I really don't consider you to be normal, in a good way :D , but you certainly live a lifestyle in which regular people can relate. You own a home, have a yard to mow, raise a backyard garden, are married, pay taxes, own a pet, etc. Hopefully the article can connote that one can have a normal societal experience without crushing debt, poor health, or undue stress. So I would stress just how normal your lifestyle is from a day to day perspective, and hopefully that will make it relatable to many more people that think one has to give up all standards of living to accomplish what you and others have done. The reaction should be: Hey, he cooks just like me, has a comfortable house just like me, has the trials and joys of being married just like me, etc, but he doesn't have to go to work tomorrow just like me? Hmmmm, what has he done differently that I can adopt to make my life better?

If the article focuses solely on the differences, then a large percentage of people will discard the message as eccentric and not relatable in my opinion.

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Re: Suggestions for [action]-pictures for newspaper article

Post by FBeyer » Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:57 am

Sitting in your favorite chair, dog on your lap, wife by your side.
Normal lives in terms of emotions, different in terms of possessions.

How about a budget that says:
years before I have to go to work again: 101.3
:lol:

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Re: Suggestions for [action]-pictures for newspaper article

Post by Chris » Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:39 am

Watch some hip hop videos for inspiration.

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Re: Suggestions for [action]-pictures for newspaper article

Post by Dragline » Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:38 am

I agree with the idea that your pictures should make things look normal and familiar. A simple picture of your house from the street would be good, or maybe with you standing sitting on the front step.

But you definitely need to have at least one of the dog sitting somewhere. :D

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Re: Suggestions for [action]-pictures for newspaper article

Post by Did » Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:47 am

The Mr MM bike shot looks healthy and free. But the point you always make is that ERE is not a weird life of deprivation so a happy shot at home with the family would be perfectly appropriate.

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Post by vexed87 » Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:09 pm

sky wrote:Show them that you are fabulously wealthy by throwing handfuls of lentils in the air.
:lol: Lentils always seem to provoke unnecessary knee jerk reactions, probably best to avoid mentioning those... Also wasting lentils is technically against the ERE ethos...

+1 for road bike/commuting shot. go for something sexy...

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Also, now is a good time to follow through and get that tattoo of your net worth on your forehead, that was an ERE blog post, right? or did I make that up. :D

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Re: Suggestions for [action]-pictures for newspaper article

Post by saving-10-years » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:55 am

Agree about the normalising shots. How about a plate of ERE food (not only lentils, thinking of the top five meals thread here). Congrats on the media success.

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Post by Did » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:01 am

@v87 I personally think net worth is the wrong message. Even the multiplier is the wrong message. If as Jacob says in his overview he was "set for life" when he first had 175k or whatever it was, then having more and spending time getting it isn't something to be proud of really. Getting rich is boring. I could have been like everyone else if I had wanted to do that. The best bit of the message - to me, anyway - is that you don't have to be, and you can use the time you would have spent pilling up the cash doing things you find more interesting.

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Post by vexed87 » Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:48 am

@Did, I see where you are coming from, yet personally, one of the biggest motivations for changing my spendthrift ways was establishing a substantial net-worth. Net worth of millions meant and still means little to me too, I just liked the idea of a safety net/FU money! As a young man I struggled with cycles of buying gadgets, paying off credit cards, rinse and repeat in a vain attempt to seek happiness and fulfillment, the thought of having £10,000 - 100,000 was totally alien to me and seemed like a far off reality. I bet a substantial portion of potential ERE converts are in similar positions.

It was the insecurity of debt that lead me to search for better ways to manage money... and so I soon stumbled on MMM/ERE. This is sort of the angle I would pursue, not sure how to achieve it in action picture format though.

I suppose the finding fulfillment without buying, so shots of producing things, woodcraft, bike mechanics, baking are good places to look for inspiration, I suppose these are all personal though so that makes it tough.

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Re: Suggestions for [action]-pictures for newspaper article

Post by sky » Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:31 am

vexed87 wrote:
sky wrote:Show them that you are fabulously wealthy by throwing handfuls of lentils in the air.
:lol: Lentils always seem to provoke unnecessary knee jerk reactions, probably best to avoid mentioning those... Also wasting lentils is technically against the ERE ethos...
:D
Strategically position one's self next to the garden, and fling said lentils in a direction where they will grow.

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