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Smashter
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Re: More on Microbiome

Post by Smashter » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:52 pm

Not everyone agrees that eggs, meat, and TMAO are evil.

"If food really did make a significant contribution to TMAO levels, and high TMAO levels cause heart disease, then we’d expect to see much higher rates of CHD among people who eat more fish—since fish has a much greater effect on TMAO than eggs. Yet this is the opposite of what studies indicate: Eating more fish (especially cold-water, fatty fish) has consistently been shown in both observational and randomized controlled trials to reduce the risk of death from heart disease."

https://chriskresser.com/choline-and-tm ... t-disease/

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Re: More on Microbiome

Post by Ego » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:16 pm

Scroll down and read a few of the comments. Especially Jeff Guarino's.

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Re: More on Microbiome

Post by Smashter » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:59 pm

It's definitely a tricky issue and one that I want to read more about. I feel strongly that eggs and liver have health benefits, which of course means I tend to block out contradictory evidence :) So, thank you for pushing me out of my comfort zone. I had never bothered to read the comments.

I still think there's more to the story than "choline is bad." The study Jeff Guarino mentions in his comment is no longer accessible from the original article. The two other citations Mr. Guarino takes umbrage with seem to be very legit and to support Chris Kresser's hypothesis.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals ... CABF2C166B

https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/32 ... e8539.atom

Also, know that I am in 100% agreeance with you that gut health is incredibly important and should be paid attention to. I also despise factory farming, and would not be surprised if beef and eggs from factory farms had harmful effects when compared with pasture raised animals.

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Re: More on Microbiome

Post by vexed87 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:33 am

Ego wrote:An excellent video on resistant starch and microbiome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI3KtR3 ... e=youtu.be
+1, really enjoyed that.

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Re: More on Microbiome

Post by jennypenny » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:16 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iKHMyWzclM

I'm continually amazed at the effect the microbiome has on our health. The speed with which it can be changed is very encouraging.


**Should this topic be moved into Health?

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Re: More on Microbiome

Post by Ego » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:39 am

I'm trying to come up with a reason I decided this topic needed to be in DIY Skills rather than Health. What was I thinking?! The only thing I can come up with is the fecal transplant thing, which is DIY. :lol:

Yes, please move it.

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