Stability of Permaculture work as main income?

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Stability of Permaculture work as main income?

Post by Hégé » Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:31 am

(english is not my native language)

Hello,

I'm 20 years old and I'm living in Western Europe. I wanted to hear your feedback on my life situation and its stability for the future.

I'm working in a Permaculture Farm. I have no degrees whatsoever. I finished obligatory school then I decided to study Permaculture. I was very lucky to find a friend who was setting up a big Permaculture project and was ready to pay several people to work with him (big investments on his part, he's looking to make profit in the very very long run). I'm paid 12$/h to work there but there's not a lot of field work right now so I don't earn that much (this will change in the summer). The rest of the time I study Permaculture.

I'm basically spending nothing, I live at my grandmother's house. I bike to work. My parents still pay for my food.

Best of all, I actually have a "artistic" grant which pays for my Permaculture courses. (I have a PDC and I'm going to Sepp Holzer's Farm and to Martin Crawford's Forest Garden)

So, very fortunate situation for now. I'm still worried about the stability of it. The guy I'm working with is known for going into project impusivly and not thinking through everything. He doesn't plan much because he has money and he doesn't need things to really work. If this project fail, I'm a bit worried of what kind of job I can find without any "official" degrees in my hand. (I should also point out that college in my country is almost free).

What do you think of it? Should I just hope for the best and try to find another Permaculture farm to work in if it doesn't work?
And also, if you have any suggestion what courses I could spend that "grant money" on, I'll be very interested to hear them! (I though about doing professional bakery courses, and professional mushroom farming courses)


Thank you,
H.

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Re: Stability of Permaculture work as main income?

Post by James_0011 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:21 pm

If its working for you know, why not stick with it? you could always go to college later if it doesn't work out.

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Re: Stability of Permaculture work as main income?

Post by George the original one » Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:32 pm

Getting paid for your education while gaining work experience in the same field is a good deal. Your living arrangement makes the low wage significantly better than if you had to pay for rent & food, so I hope you're saving while you can.

On the other hand, once you are certified in permaculture, will your income improve? At the current exchange rate, you're only a little bit (10-15%) above the minimum wage in Oregon.

Another thought is that you should always be looking at other permaculture farms to meet like-minded people. Doesn't mean you have to accept job offers, but at least the people would get a chance to meet you which could lead to something in the future.

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Re: Stability of Permaculture work as main income?

Post by Hégé » Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:11 am

@George
Yes I'm saving almost all of it.
My income will improve because we haven't started selling products yet. It should really go up. He knows I have to make a living with it and knows 12$/h is not nearly enough for that.

So if it's working, it's really good. But you're right that I should build some networking and expose myself more. It's something I have to improve at!

@James
I'm definitly sticking with it, because it seems like a golden opportunity, but it still makes me a bit scared. I'm on an unconventional road in terms of education and work. I guess I'll just go with it 100% and improvise if it doesn't work :D Maybe even go to college as you said, even though it seems unlikely after going down the permaculture route.

Thanks all

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Re: Stability of Permaculture work as main income?

Post by daylen » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:32 am

If you are looking to reduce risk of unemployment then consider developing another marketable skill in your spare time. Preferably something that does not relate to permaculture/farming in any way. Diversify income streams.

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Re: Stability of Permaculture work as main income?

Post by Hégé » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:53 am

daylen wrote:If you are looking to reduce risk of unemployment then consider developing another marketable skill in your spare time. Preferably something that does not relate to permaculture/farming in any way. Diversify income streams.
That's a good idea. Maybe I should invest a small part of my grant money on some courses/certification for something else. Programming, Carpentry,.. I will look into it. Thanks.

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