How To Build A Website That Earns $1,000 / Month

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Gilberto de Piento wrote: Wow, unfortunate choice of words on my part.
Sorry I lost ya! Negativity is a very powerful thing. Last night, you said "I'm starting to reconsider this whole building a website thing" and now, because of the negativity here, you're convinced this is all a scam and you'll likely never try again. Shame.

As someone who actually saw my original post, I'm surprised you also believe this was all some elaborate scam now. But I digress, I suppose it was just an awful post!

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@TM, you really haven't helped yourself here by deleting the OP, and you lack of prior in engagement in the forum before dropping the ''big guns' hasn't helped deter suspicion.

Also, I never accused you of demanding money, I just said we are hard to part with ours, with the exception of FBeyer of course (@FB, PM me if you are still looking to earn big bucks, I have established a lentil-based-ponzi scheme you may be interested in getting first dibs in) :mrgreen:

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vexed87 wrote:@TM, you really haven't helped yourself here by deleting the OP, and you lack of prior in engagement in the forum before dropping the ''big guns' hasn't helped deter suspicion.
Actually, I am helping myself. For starters, I don't owe anyone here anything. Second, I don't care what a bunch of random strangers on a forum think of me. And third, the content I wrote here can be better utilized elsewhere. I know where it will actually be appreciated.

Thanks for your concern, but I assure you my life will carry on.

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TheMinimalist wrote: Second, I don't care what a bunch of random strangers on a forum think of me.
Thank you for confirming that you do not actually care about us, despite your obsequious language. BTW, speaking in that sort of language to people you do not actually care about is considered to be sleazy if you were still wondering about why another poster used that label. It's kind of like the brown-nosing guy at work who actually hates the boss but thinks he getting away with something. Or the character Eddie Haskell of "Leave It to Beaver" fame, but that reference is probably too old for most.

I noticed that you still did actually answer the question as to what business or sites you were considering selling. Frankly, it would not make sense for anyone to buy these kinds of sites unless you were actually coming along to support them for a lengthy (and perhaps indefinite) earn-out period due to the on-going content creation they would require.

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Dragline wrote:
TheMinimalist wrote: Second, I don't care what a bunch of random strangers on a forum think of me.
Thank you for confirming that you do not actually care about us, despite your obsequious language.
And yet, even with all the hatred being thrown at me, I'm still helping those who are asking legitimate questions. It's funny, you guys could all be asking me anything you want about how to grow an online business, how to grow a website, how to perform market research, how long it takes to make money, how to perform proper search engine optimization, how to develop your own online product, etc... but instead, you just want your "gotcha" moment. Well, I guess you got me!

Why in the world would I share even MORE information with you and make myself even MORE vulnerable? If you truly wanted to know more about my business, you had your chance. Instead, you opted for a "gotcha" moment. I'm sure your'e satisfied.

Obviously I'm just a liar and a scammer. Look at it this way, how many countless people did you save from my wrath? Good job.

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Even from your very first thread/post asking a question about whether or not you should sell your sites, I was wondering if you had an agenda.

When someone new to a forum, with no established creds, immediately starts humblebragging about their success - that smells like an agenda.

Now this new thread is about how to build money making sites, it's also another signal.

Yet you actually do sell a subscription course on 'how to make money making sites', that's clearly a situation where we have a conflict of interest. If you never brought this subject up then there wouldn't be that conflict. Yet you did, a strong signal of having an agenda.

When people in this thread raised legitimate questions, your responses in this thread were also abnormally defensive. Another strong signal of having an agenda..

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TheMinimalist wrote:That site received 2,524 visitors yesterday from search engines, but you think I'm wasting my time writing posts here so that I can drive traffic and make sales. I'm not going to convince you otherwise, but if you really think about it, this would be a ridiculous time-wasting strategy.
Pics or it didn't happen.

Real example:
Here are analytics for a page I sent ~19,000 unique visitors to in just 4 days back in 2013. I made completely legitimate ~$10 before deciding it wasn't worth my time and effort.

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Quid pro quo, now you show proof.

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fiby41 wrote:Quid pro quo, now you show proof.
I don't think it really even matters if I do show proof. Sure, I'll do it, but the pessimists in here will just make up some other reason I'm "scamming" them or lying. Maybe I photoshopped the screen captures? Maybe I took the images from somewhere else online? You can form your own conclusions, but here you go...

DogFoodInsider.com Website Traffic Since Birth

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And just to show how honest I really am, here is my exact traffic for yesterday on DogFoodInsider.com. The exact same number I mentioned earlier

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Of course, this doesn't satisfy what people REALLY want to see. Proof of income, right? None of this means shit unless I can prove what I'm earning. Well, sorry folks, but I can't do it. Either you believe me or you don't. Of course, anyone in my position would want to post proof of income just to shut up the haters in here, but here's the problem...
Without limiting the foregoing, the Ad Code, Advertising Materials, all information relating to the Ad Code, the data and information shared with you regarding the revenue per thousand impressions ("RPM") data and any and all communication sent to you by Media.net shall be deemed to be Confidential Information.

SOURCE: http://www.media.net/en/TermsOfService
This is common practice and I have non disclosure agreements with all of my affiliate partners and display ad partners (Google Adsense has the same policy). So am I willing to share what I can with you? Absolutely. Am I willing to break confidentiality agreements with the very people who support my business? Absolutely not. What I CAN tell you is that I earn a full time living through Media.net alone. The only possible way I would be willing to verify this is if one of the forum moderators contacts me privately. But honestly, I'm pretty much done wasting my time here anyway. My motivation and desire to help people on this forum has very quickly faded.

Hopefully this will help to satisfy that I'm legit, but I don't expect it to. This won't be enough information, or it's faked, or something else. Whatever. Honestly, I don't need you guys starting online businesses anyway. Why would I invite more competition?

I'm a scammer, plain and simple.

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Now the problem isn't that you're a scammer, it's that, aside from your posts containing advice, you're talking to people here like you're a jerk.

(We're cool with Dragline being a jerk sometimes because we already know him, and we know he gives really good advice)

A friendly suggestion:
If you want to participate in the forum and give people advice, just get over the few posts that you took so hard and give advice without the continual sarcastic fulmination.

Also, in general, this forum isn't very accepting of people jumping straight in with what could remotely seem like a sales pitch. It's a more personal community. If your motivation is to drop in quick for only a thread like this, we likely won't give good returns for your effort. Folks here have been very supportive and appreciative regular forum participants that share their entrepreneurial efforts (the portfolio charts thread is one of many examples)

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I will add that I checked a couple reviews on your dog food site, and as a dog food expert (yes, really), there is good, truthful and helpful information in the reviews. The clickbaity things are a little annoying, but as I inderstand, that's what's needed when optimizing sites for income. (This is not what people here have objected to though)

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I appreciate the knowledge shared from TheMinimalist. After reading some of the posts in this thread I also became more sceptical about TheMinimalist, but that's irrelevant (thanks to those who showed the other side of the coin though). The thread is about how to build a (very) profitable website.

I can't say I'm left with a feeling that I can succeed in creating a $1000/month website, the investment/effort in time compared to the expected payoff doesn't seem worth it to me.

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I want to know if a 300$ per month website takes one third of the work, or if the reward to work function is a step function.

One boon to being an 8000$ per year spender is the VERY small amount of income needed to sustain myself. I don't care for large amounts of money, I care for the income to effort ratio.

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Wow. I went on the road and missed all this. And I'm one of the people who asked for a follow up post. Shame about the deleted content. I'll check out the Reddit stuff and dog food link. Thanks minimalist.

Whatever the content was -scam, porn, online gambling, hey I'm all ears if it makes money. I didn't ask you to share to pass any judgments.

I actually run a little site that costs me $10 a month of fees. It makes $400 per month. Enough to intrigue me about the idea that there is money out there but not enough for me to put anymore energy into it. Friends have told me that I should try to expand it but really I just run it for the novelty of being able to make a few hundred dollars a month. I've done this for ten years. I don't update any human generated content. I barely remember the password.

I learned "SEO" after watching my site get bonked down on Yahoo! And Google rankings. It was not as complex as people make it sound. After spending a career pulling signal out of noise samples the "science" was easy to control. I had to write a silly program to update my content daily to really get on top of the bots. Fun to figure out.

I get about 1000 hits a week. I have no ads and don't know much about that stuff. I know they're valuable because two years ago somebody cloned my site with everything but my product and put ads on theirs - is 1000 hits that valuable ? Must be. I sell a file that is worth money to a small number of folks. Five a week pay for a download file. It's a pretty sad conversion rate but hey, it's all automatic. And I get one visitor a quarter who emails me and says I'm scammy because my stuff didn't work for him. I guess that's 1/60 customers.

Thanks minimalist. I think it is interesting that this kind of activity is out there and that you are an expert. I'm not below trying something like this. I just wouldn't try it on people here. :lol:

I recall sitting with a colleague ten years ago showing him the snippet of magic I sell online and saying "ya know, there are people who will pay a few dollars for this if we could just find them or they could find us efficiently." He called BS and buried me in negativity. I have never told him to this day that it works. And, he's so convinced that it doesn't he never googled the subject even though he came up with it in the first place. Be careful about negativity I guess. (This belongs in the things I had to unlearn thread)

I hate getting scammed but hey if it makes money I'm at least academically curious. Thanks again for the follow up post.

I guess my feeling on this is I wouldn't be mad if I had asked you, "how did you do it" and you showed me a how to on running a successful porn site. I asked and got a valid answer. Even Robert Kiyosaki taught me something. Yes (I've posted this before) I bought his VPs tapes, audio tapes, game and multiple books before I figured out his game and his mark (me). And at the end of the day it actually made me richer in real money. I wouldn't be retired if I hadn't learned from that huckster. Jacob wasn't on the scene yet so I had to settle for RK. :lol:

I'm off to see a real scammy guy today. He charges 1.25% of assets under management to yield 1% before fees. I'll save my negativity for him.

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Just skimmed over the Reddit post

Thank you for sharing minimalist. Interesting information.

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TheMinimalist wrote:
fiby41 wrote:Quid pro quo, now you show proof.
Hopefully this will help to satisfy that I'm legit, but I don't expect it to. This won't be enough information, or it's faked, or something else. Whatever. Honestly, I don't need you guys starting online businesses anyway. Why would I invite more competition?
Yeah, I trust you.

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