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2 cars, sell one, but which?

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  1. Landor n Stella

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    We are moving (tomorrow!) to a rental house that is 2.5 blocks from where I work and Landor goes to university (the same place, actually). We have 2 cars currently and do not see a reason that we need both, so we are going to sell one. But the debate that I am hoping you can help with is which one to sell?

    Car A: We love this car. It is a very fuel-efficient hatchback that we bought a little over a year ago. It is a 2007 with just over 110,000 miles. We bought it on credit (*smacks self*) with a 5 year term but we already have it paid down by half. The interest rate is 3.25%. We owe about $6,000 on it. Surprisingly, it is worth the same today as when we bought it over a year ago, and the model is in high demand where we live, so selling would not be an issue.

    Car B: This is Landor's beater car, a gift from his godparents when he graduated from high school. It is 100% paid off. It's a large 1993 sedan with 135,000 miles. It will probably run until it is well over 200,000 miles, but if we were to keep it as the primary vehicle it would need some minor repairs: the windows do not roll down and the air conditioning is broken. We could deal with one or the other operating, so we would repair what was cheaper. My estimates show we could sell this car as-is for about $2,000.

    I've tried to not show my bias for which I prefer but I am not always logical. Other important things to this discussion: We travel, sometimes very long distances for a weekend hobby/job that brings in extra income. Landor will be starting an internship next summer in a town that is about 1 hour away. We have not decided how to deal with that yet, housing-wise, but he will need the vehicle for that.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. Mo

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    A big part of the picture would seem to be the monthly cost of owning each car: insurance, registration, MPG, and mileage, as well as the projected cost of the maintenance.

    There are rare instances in which it doesn't make much sense to get rid of an old beater car. If it costs very little to insure, register, and maintain-- it may not be unreasonable to keep it if it offers you utility. To me, the key is the monthly cost relative to the provided utility.

    If you're going to sell, it seems like the 93 has to go.
    The beater car is a 93-- nearly 20 years old. $2k for a 93 with broken windows and broken AC, seems like a tough sale. If all 4 windows don't roll down, and they all stopped working at once, that might be as simple as a fuse. If it's the motor that runs a power window (one per door, wouldn't all break at once), those can be surprisingly expensive, particularly if not DIY. As I'm sure you know, AC repairs could potentially exceed the value of the vehicle.

    Lastly, if I'm going to drive "very long distances" I'd much rather be in a 2007 than a 1993.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. George the original one

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    Mo has hit the highlights and "love the car" indicates the new one is the right one to keep.

    One consideration in favor of the beater is that if you live in a climate/city where cars are easily damaged, then you'll realize a smaller loss if the beater car is clobbered. But this is only sensible when the beater car is 100% reliable.

    I have a beater Cherokee that I use for fishing trips. Taking the nice car on rugged gravel roads or over frozen mountain passes just didn't make sense even though the nice car always got us there.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. HSpencer

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    An '07 with 110,000 miles would scare me a little. Around here, we like an '07 to have about 75,000 by this time. I have an '03 Tahoe with 85,000 and an '04 Silverado with only 68,000.
    On both of these, I get a little gulpy when I look at the spedos but both have 5.3 engines and will go 200K, no problem.
    Out of the two you mention, I would keep the '07 hatchback, and get it clear asap. We are seeing really good low milage cars for around 5K in my parts. It runs in fits, sometimes you see cars for sale, that the owners must have never turned off the engine and kept the wheels moving. Other times, you can find a great '05 - '07 with low miles for 5-6K. Just depends on what part of the country your in.

    Now is the time to look for good V8's (tahoe or explorers, durangos, etc) with around 75,000 on them. You should be able to get one for around $11,500 or so. I would stay away from any American front wheel drive car. If you need the traction, I suggest a pure 4WD in lieu of all wheel or front wheel.
    Another option is the Honda Accord, or Pilot, or the Toyota Highlander or Camery. These are highly dependable, yet a bit high as they are in full demand.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. Landor n Stella

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    Thanks for the input- you confirmed what we were thinking! A few responses:
    1. The beater car IS very cheap to maintain and occasionally we do need 2 cars, although this is going to decline quite a bit after moving tomorrow where everything we need is within walking/biking distance. So, we'll probably put it up for sale but not actually sell unless we get the price we want ($1500-2k)
    2. The 2007 had only 65,000 miles when we bought it. We put over 40,000 miles on it within the last year (mostly the commute, 72 miles a day. I will NOT miss driving that much).
    3. Since we will be close to a University campus, there are lots of kids looking to buy a cheap car, and we might be able to move the beater without much trouble. It is a reliable car, besides the minor inconveniences of the windows and AC.
    4. We already promised each other to never buy a car with credit again, so we'll get this one clear ASAP.

    Thanks everyone!
    ~Stella

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. dot_com_vet

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    The 2007 should be much better made and more reliable than the 1993.

    Mechanics bill around $100/hour and have a high markup on parts. A beater could easily sap $2k/year from you if you don't do your own repairs.

    My 2009 Honda is running less than $20 maintenance/10,000 miles of driving. I really like modern cars!

    Posted 1 year ago #

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