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the Swede's journal

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  1. Swede

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    Joined: Jul '11
    Posts: 23

    I've been reading the blog for a couple of months and am deeply impressed by Jacob's insights and reasoning. Although I have always been fairly frugal, this site has raised my motivation to take it a few steps further.

    About me: I'm 27 years old, born and raised in Sweden and a medical intern. I've got a small dog and got married about a month ago.

    Economically, I have a negative net worth at approx. $10k. This is mostly due to a student loan of about $50k as I have studied to become a physician. Fortunately, in Sweden you get student loans from the state at interest rates of 2-3 % so it's as good as interest free if you take inflation into account. A year ago, my net worth was -$28k, so I have been saving a good portion of my paycheck since I started working. I invest the savings in stocks and index funds.

    Since this spring, when I discovered ERE, I have been doing some further cuttings in my expenditures. When our car broke down, I convinced my girlfriend that we didn´t really need to replace it. She already commutes by train and I started commuting by bike/bus. This is easier in Scandinavia than in the US as the infrastructure is much better and people don't think you're crazy if you don't have a car (at least not before you get kids, then it's considered essential). However, the bike ride to the bus stop takes about 30 minutes and the busride takes 50 minutes, so the days get quite long.

    I have also cut the food costs. I already cooked 95% of my food and brought lunch to work, but now I try to find cheap deals and cook about 10 portions at a time of a dish and put it in the freezer, then bring for lunch. I aim to pay about a dollar/portion. Further, everyday spending on snacks, sodas etc are mercilessly cut out. I try not to spend any money in the weeks except for food. On the weekends I usually spend more money, especially since many of my friends and my family live in different parts of the country and travelling is pretty expensive. However, I try to find ways to spend time with friends witjout spending a lot of money.

    What are my goals then? Well, I actually don´t wish to retire in five years. Having worked as a doctor for a year, I really like my job and find it very meaningful and fulfilling. Furthermore, society has invested a great deal in my education and I wouldn´t feel morally comfortable dropping out so soon after I started. On the other hand, I am starting to fully realize the overwhelming consequences of the decisions you make as a doctor and the tremendous responsibility it brings with it. I also see a lot of attendings who are great at what they do - at work, while other parts of their lives such as family always comes second. This makes me want to choose a "lifestyle" specialty, i.e. one with good hours and a more narrow field of competence such as dermatology or ophthalmology.

    Thus, I want to work, just don´t work that much. For now, I´m fine with working full time + some extra time on call, but when I have kids I want to be able to spend a lot of time with them. My ideal future is one where I work something like two-three days a week with something I enjoy and that the money I bring in is more than enough to cover my expenses, while having a substantial sum invested and growing passively.

    Now, some (approximate) numbers from june:

    Assets:
    Apartment $67500
    Funds: $12700
    Stocks: $3000
    Cash: $7000
    Other: $6000
    Total: $96200

    Liabilities:
    Mortgage: $57400
    Student loans: $48500
    Total: $105900

    Total net worth: -$9700

    And my budget looks like this (approximately):

    Net income: $3300

    Rent, mortgage, utilities: $520
    Commute card: $220
    Food: $150
    Student loans: $200 (half interest, half principal)
    iPhone: $75
    Gym membership: $50
    Misc: Widely varying

    Total: $1215 + misc

    The miscellaneous category has varied significantly over the past year as it often includes infrequent expenses such as travels, gifts or car repairs. Anyway, my goal is to keep it under $300/month. If I manage that, I will be able to save about 55 % of my income. Sometimes I get possibilities to earn extra income so I think I could get that figure up to 60 %. As it is, however, I am happy as long as I can keep the percentage above 50 % long term.

    In about a year, when I get my medical license, my income will rise with about $1000. Then I will either save 60%+ of my income or, if possible, start working four days a week.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. ExpatERE

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    Joined: Jul '11
    Posts: 219

    Welcome! I love reading the journals. Looking forward to seeing how you progress. Plus, each new journal gives me motivation to start my own.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. Swede

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    Joined: Jul '11
    Posts: 23

    Thank you, ExpatERE. I see you too started your own journal, will be reading it.

    The other day, I was thinking about my motivations for saving a lot of money. I have always liked trying to accumulate money, but I have never really been very appealed by the "jet-set" life or "becoming rich and/or famous". The last year, I have alternated being slightly obsessed with a simple, minimalistic life with little work and lots of leisure, and a hard working, hard saving life with the goal of accumulating as much money as possible as fast as possible. I guess when I discovered ERE, these two seemingly paradoxical views merged which is one reason it appealed to me so much.

    The thing is, if a simple life was all I wanted, I could theoretically do it right now. I could start working half time and easily live on that salary. I´m not sure my current employer would allow me to, but it´s not like if I have asked, either. On the other hand, if money was really so important to me, I could just start spending it and feel (and look) like a richer person.

    Probably, what I really want is the experience of setting a goal and getting there. I like the feeling of cheating the system when I spend a lot less than other people on things with the same value. If and when I reach my goal, I probably won´t jump arpund in ecstatic happiness, I will realise that it was the journey that was worth the work. Indeed, if I imagine winning a big lottery and getting lots of money, in a way it would feel like someone took the fun out of it all!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. LtBarnum

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    Interesting to see a fellow Swede on these boards, ERE isn't really big in Sweden and the ratrace seems to be the only way to follow for most. The thing I envy about doctors in Sweden is that you can obtain pretty much the same salary anywhere in the country, so you can live in a small city and still get good pay while most of us others have to be located toe the big city (Stockholm, Gothenburg) because that's where the "career jobs" are!

    I assume that you already live in a small city considering the value of your apartment? One thing you can easily deduct is the gym card. Ive started to work out outdoors (at least now during summer) in playgrounds, it's a good variation from gym (been going to gym for 2 years). I suppose you could also use the gym at the hospital you work at?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. Swede

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    LtBarnum: ah, another swede! You are right about the salaries of doctors in Sweden, the farther away from the city, the larger the paycheck. My girlfriend is in civil engineering though, so she pretty much has to stick to the bigger cities in order to get good jobs. At the moment we live in one of the bigger cities but not very central, and in an area where for some reason the prices are much lower even though it's a calm neighbourhood. This is the very reason we bought it and we are quite happy with it. When we move to a house, we will most likely pick a small town or village but within reasonabke distance from a major city. Lately, I have been thinking about general practice as a specialty, as it fits well with a EREish lifestyle: the pay is good, you can work practically as many or as few days a week as you like, and you can work almost anywhere.

    About the gym card: I signed up for two years when we moved here, this was a year ago so I'm stuck for another year. I will consider skipping it, but going to the gym does help my motivation to exercise. Unfortunately, the gym at my hospital has closed and they are not planning to get a new one.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. Swede

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    Joined: Jul '11
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    Summing up july:

    In: $3200
    Out: $1480
    Saved: $1720
    Savings rate: 54 %

    A pretty good month, I´m happy as long as I reach >50 % savings rate.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. Windfeld

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    Posts: 21

    As LtBarnum said. Ditch the gym and train outside and/or use kettlebells. They kick ass. :o)

    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. Swede

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    Joined: Jul '11
    Posts: 23

    I haven´t been writing here for a while, but it was fun to reread my post from half a year ago. After I read the ERE book last summer, I got a bit "satiated" on ERE stuff and haven´t had the motivation to keep writing in my journal. That doesn´t mean I have given up saving though. However, the fall was a tough period in regards to the stock market so my portfolio has been taking a turn. This month has been good though and as long as the stock market doesn´t crash, at the end of this month I will reach networth zero, a year and a half after graduating from the university.

    Approximately:

    Assets:
    Apartment $67500
    Funds: $15000
    Stocks: $15000
    Cash: $4500
    Other: $6000
    Total: $108000

    Liabilities:
    Mortgage: $57500
    Student loans: $48500
    Total: $106000

    Total net worth: $2000

    I have been thinking a lot about specialty choice, and have suffered from decision-agony. However, I am again thinking about general practice/family medicine. I would really like to work at the nearest district health care center, which is about a 7 minutes walk from my home and just next to the grocery store. I would free up 2 hours of commuting time every day compared to my current routine, and would save $200+ each month in commuting costs. Also, it would be easy to take out the dog on a walk and eat at home for lunch. As we are thinking about having kids, this arrangement would also be tremendously beneficial to family life.

    If I do this and further cut expenses such as gym membership, expensive cell phone plan etc, I think I could reach <$900/month in spending which would mean >75 % in savings rate. However, this doesn´t cover expenses such as vacation and if kids come in to play, that will be a different story (financially and emotionally).

    Posted 1 year ago #
  9. themoneymonk

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    75% savings rate is awesome. Let us know how it turns out for you.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  10. Swede

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    I have now gotten a job at the hospital where I work now, from september -12 and a year forward. I am still considering going into family practice, but I didn't want to pass upp this opportunity to work at this particular clinic where I had the best time in medicine thus far when I was there for a month in november. The workplace is full of nice people and thus attracting other nice people and it is in an interesting field. Family practice jobs are plenty and I can always settle for that later whereas I can not be sure to get another shot at this particular specialty. So for now, the 75 % savings rate will have to wait. However, in june I will get a paycheck raise of about 33 % which after taxes results in about $1000 more income /month. I think I will be able to keep up a savings rate of at least 60 %.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  11. Swede

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    My stocks have been doing well the last months and I find that my motivation for saving has declined during that time. This is a good thing, in the way that I am more relaxed and don't think as much about money. At least I think my wife would say it's a good thing that I'm not being obsessed about saving more. ;) I think it also has to do with me having a good time at work, which makes me not wishing to leave it. In february we went snowboarding for a week in the Austrian alps, that was nice. I have also paid for flight tickets to Corsica which I will visit with some friends this summer. In March, my savings rate will probably be around 50 %.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  12. Swede

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    I reached only 39% savings rate this month, mostly because I got a bit less salary than usual, but also because I've been splurging a bit at restaurants and alcohol.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  13. Swede

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    This month I saved only 38 %. However, I spent 6 % on charity and about 5 % on tickets related to a trip this summer. Still, I have been lazy when it comes to my money management and I could have saved much more. I have been making small purchases that are completely unnecessary and have not thought a lot about what I buy at the grocery store.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  14. Swede

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    So, I have now started my new job and been there for a week, and thus far I am having a really good time! Being happy at work, my motivation for early retirement is pretty low at the moment. Also, the vacation on Corsica was amazing. I try to keep my savings rate at 50 %. My stocks are losing value, but at least I now have a positive net worth at about $10k.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  15. m741

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    Joined: Jan '11
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    It's great that you love your job - but one week isn't long enough to gauge accurately: you're still in the 'honeymoon period.' So - I'd keep adding to your stash. Hopefully you love your job and it's not necessary, but if things turn sour it's great to have a reserve.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  16. Swede

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    m741: You're right about that, of course. Still, after three months at my new job I genuinely enjoy working there. I have a week off at the moment which is nice too, and in just a few weeks my first child will be born. :) That is exciting and I guess life will never be the same after this.

    I'm still not saving as much as I'd like to, and we have invested in some new kitchen appliances like a dishwasher and a new stove this fall. My wife has also bought a lot of stuff for the baby. :P Anyway, I've picked up a new hobby which is very much aligned with the ERE lifestyle: making crossword puzzles. In Sweden there is a version with clues in boxes inside the crossword which is very popular. It turns out I seem to have a talent constructing them. The cost is virtually zero (I use a demo version of a crossword software + MS Paint) and time flies while I'm designing them (it's fun!). I have made a few for friends and family with themes such as new years eve and this summer's vacation with pictures and internal jokes from the events and they are really appreciated. I have also looked into selling them (almost every newspaper and weekly magazine feature one) and there seems to be a decent market. The perfect side income: no cost, do it whenever and wherever you want!

    Posted 4 months ago #
  17. Swede

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    Hi again,

    it's nice to come here once in a while and write a bit about what's going on. My baby has been born and is healthy which of course is great. She's about two months old now and very cute. My wife is at home and we live mostly off of my salary. The last few weeks have been a bit tough at work which makes me think about my career and makes me more motivated for ERE. I'm considering switching to a specialty with less critically ill patients as I find those situations hard to handle psychologically. Anyway, it's summer and holidays soon and after that I will stay home with the kid for 6 months + and will have some time to think about my career.

    As I said, however, my ERE motivation has raised. My cell phone plan will expire in two weeks and then I will find a cheaper one. I'm also going to cancel my gym membership. Grocery costs have been high the last few months (partly because of diapers etc) so I sat down with my wife today to plan some inexpensive and at the same time healthy meals for the coming week. With these measures I think I can cut expenses by about $200/month at least.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  18. frugaladventurer

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    Congratulations on the baby!

    Posted 1 month ago #
  19. Swede

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    Posts: 23

    Thanks! :D

    Posted 1 month ago #
  20. Swede

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    Posts: 23

    An update regarding what my assets and liabilities are at the moment:

    Assets

    Apartment: $67500
    Funds: $32500
    Stocks: $5000
    Cash: $5500
    Other: $3500
    Total: $114000

    Liabilities

    Mortgage: $45000
    Student loans: $46000

    Total: $91000

    Net: $23000

    Since I started working 31 months ago my networth has grown at an average of about $1600/month. Pretty decent, but not very impressive by ERE standards. ;)

    Posted 1 month ago #
  21. Swede

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    I´ll take a look at some of the last months costs and think about where I can cut. The costs are my share, so if me and my wife split a bill I only count half of it.

    Housing: $600 + $200 interest on mortgage.
    Possible cut: I am negotiating the interest rates. Seems like I can get it down from 2.95 % to 2.57 % which will save me about $15/month.

    Electricity: $18 (average over a few months)
    Possible cut: This cost is so low it seems hardly worth it to put in effort. But I suppose we could save a few bucks/months by using our electricity more wisely.

    Internet connection: $25.
    Possible cut: Could switch to a slower and cheaper connection. Not prioritized right now.

    Gym membership: $50.
    Possible cut: I have cancelled it. Have to pay for three more months though.

    Cell phone: $75.
    Possible cut: My contract expires this month. I think I can get this down to about $30 or less.

    Food at home and out, diapers etc: $325(!).
    Possible cut: I aim to keep this cost at about $225 so a lot of savings potential here. Have to plan better and get my wife not to shop for food when she´s hungry. ;)

    Food at work: $135.
    Possible cut: This should be almost $0 by bringing food to work. I have been a bit lazy lately. Or perhaps lazy is the wrong word as I have to work for almost half an hour to earn enough money to buy lunch at work... however, $15 of this is for breakfast sandwiches, free amounts of coffee and one fruit a day which reckon is a pretty good deal.

    Stuff for the baby: $100.
    Possible cut: Could be a lot less, but it´s hard to say no to the mother sometimes...

    Gas: $67.
    Possible cut: We were going car free for a few months but it´s hard now that we´ve got a baby. Will try to take fewer trips to the supermarket.

    Public transportation (bus): $225.
    Possible cut: This is the cheapest way to get to my workplace which is about 70 km (44 miles) from where we live. Have been thinking about looking for another job closer to home.

    On the whole, I think there are a lot of inefficiencies when I look at these costs. There are about $400 above that I could cut pretty easily.

    Any other suggestions? Hit me!

    Posted 1 month ago #
  22. bulgaria

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    [quote]
    Since I started working 31 months ago my networth has grown at an average of about $1600/month. Pretty decent, but not very impressive by ERE standards. ;)
    [/quote]
    There are some that earn more.. But you need to understand that you are currently 27.. most of us started a lot later in life with saving. I started when I was 35 and I'm 37 and plan to be FI when I'm 45. Perhaps you are able to reach FI a lot earlier.

    PS: It is such an utter shame that most people, including me!, didn't receive much financial knowledge from our parents and that we learned so 'late' in life. Of course my parents warned for debts.. but well.. that is where it ends. So be happy that you learned at such a young age about it.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  23. Swede

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    I see your point, bulgaria... although I´m 29 now. ;)

    I think my parents didn´t teach me very much about personal finance, other than if you want to buy something you have to save for it. However, we weren´t too well off financially when I grew up as my mother returned to school at age 34 and my father had a low paying job. We were four kids in the family so the budget was pretty tight. At times we went without a car and for a period the whole family delivered advertisements to households for some extra cash. I moved to my own apartment when I was 16 and had to household with small amounts of money. I guess this lifestyle taught me not to spend too much. When I started at the university I felt rich when I suddenly had about $1000 to spend each month.

    By now, my parents are divorced and none of them is really a role model when it comes to spending. My mother has high income and high spending while my father has decent income and a bit higher spending than he can afford.

    When I met my wife (we were then around 20 years old) I was amazed that she had $4000 in a savings account ("you´re rich!"). At that time I had been forced to be frugal which I think is very different from being frugal by choice. If I had gotten a windfall then, I probably would have spent it pretty quickly. Gradually over the years, my line of thinking changed, especially after I found websites such as this one. Realizing that you have the choice to save your way to some degree of financial independence is powerful.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  24. Swede

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    Yesterday I baked some bread! It tasted delicious and was a pretty simple recipe. It's a bit creative and gives you a sense of accomplishment too. I have also cooked a few vegetarian dishes based on red lentils the last few days. Those food expenses should go down!

    Posted 1 month ago #
  25. Swede

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    Today I´m happy because I talked to my boss about reducing my time at work. Starting in september, I´ll have one week off every month. I can´t say she loved the idea, but she could understand that I want to spend more time with our newborn child. Actually, in Sweden, parents with kids under the age of 8 have a right prescribed by law to work 30-40 hours per week if they want to. However, only two percent of fathers take advantage of this right while 28 % of mothers do.

    I think one week off every month will have a tremendous effect on my well-being; not only do I get to spend more time with my family, I will also get some breathing room from work and possibly some time to explore new hobbies and interests. Soon I´ll be 25 % "retired". :D

    Posted 2 weeks ago #

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