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@Brute: Just when I thought we were finding common ground, I guess it's finally time to bring out the blunt ideological pitches. ;) I agree with some small portions of what libertarianism proposes. Riggerjack likes to proclaim that he used to be a liberal. Well, I used to consider myself a libertari...

@Brute: "PC nazis" Wew. We get it, if you're against fascism you're the real fascist. It's funny how you provide a living example of what I'm talking about, and from your perspective of imaginary persecution, I provide an example of yours, by pointing out your imaginary persecution. @Bryan...

Speaking of losers and the "witch-hunts"/Nazi-hunts to find them: Neo-Nazi blubbers like a baby in video reporting he's wanted for arrest in Charlottesville Love or hate it, this is about as close as you'll get to a non-violent "free market" solution. At least we might get them t...

@Brute: You misunderstand, but ironically I think we're getting closer to agreement. It only becomes a zero-sum game when the focus is on privilege (or the removal of existing privilege, aka 99% of complaining about PC). This: "if the only way other individuals can gain privilege is by taking i...

@Bryan:

Agreed, I expect this is very representative of the average incident of "political correctness", with similarly representative stakes: hurt feelings.

@Campitor: Those were interesting articles. Sanger is the only one I knew about previously. I feel like the HUD example with the discrimination against homeless kind of is what the law was intended for, not a misuse or inappropriate extention of it. But I don't care to argue about this. Like I've sa...

@OTCW: That is a good article, thanks. Reminded me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsF-_frgN40 Gotta say, I'm also loving this strategy: https://www.gq.com/story/nazis-free-speech-problem Free speech with consequences. "From there, the free market works its magic in short order. Ah, ca...

@C40: "I do think Rigger brings up a good point about the 'losers in the basement'. I've been hearing more and more about how young men are struggling and not adapting well to society, not learning social skills very well, then getting frustrated because they can't get girlfriends or get laid, ...

LOL. "I followed all the links, and it's shocking how different the stories in those links were from how they were presented here. For instance SW linked to the guy beaten by a pole as proof of nazi evil. But when I read it, it was the story of a counter protestor who, with his buddies taunted ...

@C40: Been a while since I used statistics of that sort tbh, but you may be right. I guess that is a low Pearson coefficient? I don't know, and I can't access the full study for a deeper explanation or any other factors supporting the conclusion. "Also, for the measures I was describing, I had ...

BTW, some scientific reporting I stumbled across the other day, related to the discussion of free speech, prejudice, and fear of political correctness. I would note I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but that would just be too politically correct. ;) Research shows prejudice, not principle, often ...

Um, first off, I think it's perfectly fair and reasonable discourse for Dragline to ask Brute to back up his claim that political correctness is a bigger problem than white supremacy. Indeed, I find it quite relevant to the idea that narratives of white persecution are typically false. "Erasing...

> "But anyways, if BRUTE is thinking about improving the world with what he talks about, what are your goals?" It appeared you were talking to me, but I guess I was thrown by Brute's little pronoun thing? I'm cool as a snowflake over here. The mental back flips in this thread are amusing t...

Oh, I forgot one: maybe the violence is all the fault of the counter-protesters who shouldn't have shown up anyway.

Maybe, baby, maybe.

And thus if the deaths are insignificant, other causes (maybe including the PC one, have a bigger impact). In a world full of maybes... Maybe the nation's largest hate rally in decades isn't a sign of white supremacy run amok. Maybe a white supremacist driving into a crowd of people isn't political...

I thought you claimed that political correctness, not butt cancer, harmed society more than white supremacy. I don't see political correctness on that list either...?

Actually, before that challenge to provide statistics even goes any further, just so we have this discussion in the proper context, the intent is to compare the alleged damage done by political correctness to capitalist productivity metrics and white male feelings during the workday... versus number...

Thanks Dragline. That's interesting and backs up what I've seen and heard. The part about the break-ins in the black houses actually gives me context to something I saw in a live-stream that day. I'm curious whether I witnessed part of that incident, or the aftermath of it, but it'd be hard to find ...

You could show her the article and continue the discussion if you can do so tactfully, and/or just get over this injustice to your feelings and need to be right, accept that you both have good intentions at heart and it will likely never come up again, and proceed with your relationship like normal....

@FFJ: Video: "We should want Nazis to march in the streets." Um... no thank you? LOL. Aside from that, I obviously don't have the patience to go piece by piece through every line of argument in a 22 minute video. The gist, however, seems to be that people ideologically opposed to Nazi rall...