http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ --- for those on the fast track to financial independence en Sun, 26 May 2013 05:59:14 +0000 http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-31566 Tue, 17 Apr 2012 19:42:20 +0000 jennypenny 31566@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>DD read it when she was 15. Youngest? </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-31559 Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:53:21 +0000 riparian 31559@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>Inter library loaned it 400 miles north of Anchorage. </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-31550 Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:47:01 +0000 JasonR 31550@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>A contest!? With No-Prizes?</p> <p>I sold mine on Dec 2, 2010 at 8:12:08 PM PST for $13.96 USD.<br /> Got it about 8 days earlier for $14.36. Totally worth $0.40. </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-31545 Tue, 17 Apr 2012 06:32:00 +0000 ktn 31545@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p><a href="http://haku.helmet.fi/iii/encore/record/C" rel="nofollow">http://haku.helmet.fi/iii/encore/record/C</a>|Rb2029881</p> <p>The northernmost library in the world to carry The Book? Only some place north of Anchorage or Oslo could beat this. :-)</p> <p>I made an acquisition proposal back when the book came out. I just realized they did acquire a copy. W00t! </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-6587 Sat, 30 Oct 2010 00:04:26 +0000 fraussie 6587@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>First to receive it (finally) from amazon.fr? </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-6173 Wed, 20 Oct 2010 05:23:07 +0000 AlexOliver 6173@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>First to post it on PaperBackSwap: AlexOliver </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-5980 Thu, 14 Oct 2010 04:34:18 +0000 Robert Muir 5980@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>First blog post on a blog that I follow by RSS:</p> <p><a href="http://lackingambition.com/?p=382">Lacking Ambition</a> </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-5968 Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:21:38 +0000 gibberade 5968@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>Haha Kevin, I like it. </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-5964 Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:13:27 +0000 Kevin M 5964@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>I'm supposed to get the book tonight. Maybe I'll be the:</p> <p>First to call in sick to stay home and read ERE. </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-5914 Wed, 13 Oct 2010 02:51:25 +0000 Marius 5914@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>Another typo, I think, at the bottom of the page before the table of contents: "This book was typest"</p> <p>Don't obsess about small errors though. They're unavoidable. Too many creators hate looking at their own work, because they only see the imperfections, while the world doesn't even notice them.</p> <p>I've read until the end of page four (at which time the GF needed me to drive her home) and so far am impressed by the quality of the text. </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-5887 Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:40:17 +0000 jacob 5887@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>@Marius - <a href="http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=417#post-5874">Maybe</a> :) </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-5878 Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:44:19 +0000 Marius 5878@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>First one to receive the book in Europe? Belgium? Or at least Brussels: Marius </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-5848 Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:42:29 +0000 jacob 5848@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>Okay, send them to Zev :-D </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-5846 Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:59:30 +0000 Zev 5846@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>d'oh! am i fired? :)</p> <p>first person to write about the book in the first person:<br /> first person to write about the book in the third person:<br /> first person to write to themselves about the book in the second person:<br /> third person to write to five persons about buying the book:</p> <p>first person in the third world to spend a week's salary on the book:<br /> first person in the former second world to buy the book with counterfeit dollar bills:<br /> first first world person to buy it secondhand:<br /> first second baseman to read the book and decide to retire early from Major League Baseball:</p> <p>first first-generation American to second the motion to adopt the book as a corporation's mission statement.<br /> first person to read the book in a two-story building three times.<br /> first person to read the book in two time zones. </p> <p>first person to forcibly feed the book to their cat.<br /> first person to smoke the book.<br /> first person to rearrange the letters in the book into a romance novel.<br /> first person to read the book aloud in the <a href="http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=186">quietest room on earth.</a> </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-5843 Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:08:19 +0000 jacob 5843@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>@AlexOliver - Just send them to me at jacob@early... </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-5842 Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:20:56 +0000 AlexOliver 5842@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>There were a lot more that I found but didn't post. When I read it again in a couple days I could post them if you'd like.</p> <p>edit: Not a lot as in "so many this book is worthless" or anything, but maybe 5-10. </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-5836 Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:10:20 +0000 jacob 5836@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>@Matt - Since a print run costs thousands of dollars, I suspect they fix it in the next edition. I don't think they pulp the current copies. I've found typos in commercial books and I doubt I'm the first one to spot them. </p> <p>Did you find another one? So far "the the shadows" on page 2 is the only one I've heard about.</p> <p>Personally I'm making notes of them and when the list becomes too long, I'll republish. So far the list is 1 item long and the typo is not horrendous. </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-5835 Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:12:26 +0000 Matt 5835@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>This may be a dumb question, but how do publishers usually handle typos? Make note of them and wait until the current lot of prints runs out before fixing? Fix them on the next edition? Just shrug? I'm not bashing the book for typos, mind you. Just interested in how they're handled. </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-5804 Sun, 10 Oct 2010 21:56:54 +0000 Anonymous 5804@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>I'm just now back from Edinburgh and I missed all the 'firsts' hoopla. Boo! My book is on the way now; better late than never. Congrats Jacob on this recent milestone! </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-5709 Sat, 09 Oct 2010 01:04:50 +0000 HSpencer 5709@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>So the people of CA will soon be able to spread eastward (opposite of the 1800's) after they take care of the task of burying the dead bodies of all the rest of us who were foolish enough to use car dusting brushes from China? </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-5694 Fri, 08 Oct 2010 22:13:25 +0000 Melissa 5694@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>Much as life is the primary cause of death </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-5687 Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:42:08 +0000 jacob 5687@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>@HSpencer - Our RV is known by the state of CA to cause cancer. And seeing that they put a sticker next to the front door explaining this, we know it too now :-D</p> <p>Anything containing lead (brass) gets that statement. My block plane tool also causes cancer. </p> <p>As does breathing ... </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-5686 Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:33:30 +0000 B 5686@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>Got it yesterday. I too have it at work. I read it during software builds. </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-5685 Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:28:56 +0000 rePete 5685@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>First to have it at work? (for lunch time reading) </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-5683 Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:59:21 +0000 HSpencer 5683@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>One more from the car dusting brush:</p> <p>"Know by the state of CA to be a cause of cancer"</p> <p>So, I guess no one else knows this but CA? The rest of the USA using this product will eventually die of cancer from it's use?<br /> Maybe a few of you Californians need to spread the word!!! How about using a blog post on ERE Blog to do that. The more I think about it, the more worried I am getting! </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-5682 Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:44:38 +0000 jacob 5682@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>@Hspencer - I hope it's not going to be that bad :) I knew we had missed something, but it was a little unnerving to have it happen on page 2 nonetheless. </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449&page=2#post-5681 Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:42:12 +0000 HSpencer 5681@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>Don't worry about typos. Nearly everything one reads these days have them, especially magazines and internet articles. For fun try reading the instructions that come with products from China:</p> <p>Car Dusting Brush</p> <p>"Make the surface of the car shiny and bright, just like being painted the cerate originally." (?)</p> <p>"You will not be bother cleaning and painting your beloved car."</p> <p>"Can be use in dryness as water is not necessary, and fibrous textiles are ok." (?)</p> <p>"Clean any car without dirt being left."<br /> (?) (Being left where?)</p> <p>"If you have anything you can contact with us." (Long Distance?)</p> <p>"Made in China"</p> <p>At least I can read typos. I wonder who writes the scripts in China? But if you have anything you can contact with them!!! </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449#post-5637 Fri, 08 Oct 2010 00:05:04 +0000 Maus 5637@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>@Jacob<br /> The answer is not as many as there used to be. Don't beat yourself up about it. The typo doesn't destroy the intelligibility of the concept. Those are the real disasters. I publish educational material for prosecutors. I have two editors and a layout &amp; production artist, all of whom copy edit. Even with this team of professionals, we occasionally go to print with a publication that has some typo in it. </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449#post-5635 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 23:01:20 +0000 jacob 5635@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>@AlexOliver - #$%#@ CURSES! Apparently three people each going through it twice wasn't enough to root out everything. It's one of those "brain-blind" errors. I wonder how many people the publishing houses have working on this part of the publication process. </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449#post-5634 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 22:51:32 +0000 AlexOliver 5634@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>First time the mail man hand delivered a package to me. </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449#post-5633 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 22:46:48 +0000 js 5633@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>First to get heat from the wife for spending $20 on a book instead of getting it from the library.</p> <p>First to spend the morning reading the book while "working from home". </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449#post-5632 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 22:35:13 +0000 AlexOliver 5632@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>First typo: Page 2, line seven "shows the the shadows" </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449#post-5584 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 15:50:40 +0000 Melissa 5584@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>First to drop it in the bathtub while soaking<br /> First to check it out from the library... when it finally comes in<br /> First to put it on a Christmas list </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449#post-5583 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 15:20:22 +0000 OurLifeInc. 5583@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>@HSpencer</p> <p>Not sure...but I may be the first to read it while "doing my business"....</p> <p>:) </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449#post-5576 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 05:50:50 +0000 jacob 5576@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>@buzz - At least I didn't include a manifest :-D </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449#post-5574 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 05:31:25 +0000 rePete 5574@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>@Zev and jacob</p> <p>Thanks, that's interesting! </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449#post-5572 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 04:12:49 +0000 Zev 5572@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>@rePete: As Jacob says, the book is idiosyncratic and borrows from a number of fields. It doesn't hold your hand like broadly targeted personal finance books do--this alone makes it unique in its category; when was the last time you were challenged by a PF book?</p> <p>I made lots of excited little notes in the manuscript, with the occasional underlined "Profound!" because I think it offers an incredibly powerful and timely message. I think the style (no "forsooth"s, thank God), difficulty level and lack of hand-holding might limit the book's reach, but if just a few concepts from it--</p> <p>* tight coupling<br /> * re-evaluating middle-class membership<br /> * Renaissance man<br /> * an implied re-evaluation of "opportunity cost"<br /> * running a household like a business</p> <p>--were to penetrate the mainstream at all, it could be revolutionary. In the most capitalist sense. :)</p> <p>I don't think I answered your question yet. The target audience is:</p> <p>* readers of the ERE blog<br /> * personal finance blog/book-readers who have tired of "10 tips to X"<br /> * middle-class who seek a way to "be the change they want to see in the world" and help the environment in ways other than buying carbon offsets and bamboo lounge chairs, with an added benefit of becoming free from a life of full-time work<br /> * middle-class who seek a way to become free from a life of full-time work, with the added benefit of accidentally being the change they want to see in the world<br /> * people who want to retire early, but who don't need an exact prescription of step A, B and C, nor a dubious drop-shipping scheme, to get there<br /> * minimalists who already got down to 100 belongings and are ready to do more meaningful minimization<br /> * all my relatives and friends<br /> * all your relatives and friends<br /> * President Obama<br /> * The tired, huddled middle-class and middle-class aspirants yearning to breathe free? </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449#post-5571 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 04:08:41 +0000 buzz 5571@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>&gt;It's "The world according to Jacob."</p> <p>I knew this was all a cult!</p> <p>Please don't make a simplified Wal-Mart version of the book. Reading something that isn't fifth grade level is refreshing, and this is coming from someone who reads college textbooks almost daily. Everything seems to be in bite-size one size fits all ideologies these days. ERE is EXTREME for a reason - it takes a little more of an open mind to ponder the concepts and then relate it to ones own life. I've had many a "aha!" moment after thinking about the implications of something you wrote. I don't think this should be squandered in favor of a few more readers/book sales. Bring the people to your level, now that's an idea worth pursuing. </p> <p>My $0.02 </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449#post-5570 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 03:30:27 +0000 jacob 5570@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>... continued.</p> <p>This also leads to a consideration of whether I should write a simpler book which would be closer to a book version of the 21 day makeover.</p> <p>Once more people have read the book, I'll start asking questions to figure out if there's an unsatisfied need. </p> http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/topic.php?id=449#post-5569 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 03:28:11 +0000 jacob 5569@http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/ <p>@rePete - Good question. Maybe I should let Zev answer that one. If I understand correctly, he thinks it has more reach than I do. </p> <p>Generally speaking, the book intersect business operations research/management, personal finance, economics, ecological economics, sociology, and some related personality psychology. It's "The world according to Jacob."</p> <p>In terms of reading level... like the blog. It's not exactly dumbed down in any way (at least not intentionally).</p> <p>My thought is that if you understand how the world works, you can control it and get exactly what you want. The book is a long primer on how the world works. </p>